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Post by sgalle on May 17, 2010 11:04:06 GMT -5
As you read, you may find some quotes that seem particularly disturbing, insightful, interesting, or amusing. Here's the place to comment on them.
Include the quote, the page number(s), and your response to this quote.
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Post by pierre on Aug 11, 2010 12:35:52 GMT -5
"What does God want? Does God want goodness or the choice of goodness? Is a man who chooses the bad perhaps in some way better than a man who has the good imposed upon him?" Part 2 Chapter 3
This quote can really get you into thinking. What is more valuable, to choose to be good, or to follow the path someone else imposes in you? Which is better, To choose to be bad , or to be good without free will? This quote also refers to the treatment Alex will follow. It questions also if the Ludovico Treatment is morally correct or not. Pierre Castro 11 Int
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Post by miromero on Aug 12, 2010 20:23:08 GMT -5
"...., then out comes the blood, my brothers, real beautiful. so all we did then was to pull his outer platties of, stripping him down to his ves and long udnerpants (very starry; dim smecked his head off near), and then Pete kicks him lovely in his pot, and we let him go." Part 1 Chapter 1
This quote gives the reader the idea of how Alex is like. Alex who is the protagonist of the novel shows here how violence for him is something common and he even finds it "beautiful", for the reader it is really disturbing to see how a teenager can see violence like this and it makes you think of how was Alex past, how was his childhood like?, why does he act like this and relates music to violence? As you go farther in the reading you can see how this attitudes of violence keep constant in Alex character. Maria Isabel Romero 11
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Post by Annie Tveten on Aug 13, 2010 13:48:11 GMT -5
“The attempt to impose upon man, a creature of growth and capable of sweetness, to ooze juicily at the last round the bearded lips of God, to attempt to impose, I say, laws and conditions appropriate to a mechanical creation, against this I raise my sword-pen.” Part one, chapter two. This is a part of F. Alexander’s novel, A Clockwork Orange, which Alex reads before beating him and raping his wife. It is an attempt of the author to reinforce the main theme of the novel. It attempts to criticize their government of taking away their freedom with means of technology. Alex doesn’t pay attention to this at the beginning but remembers it when his free will is taken. Annie Tveten 11th grade int.
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Post by rjervis on Aug 17, 2010 22:30:14 GMT -5
"But, brothers, this biting of their toe-nails over what is ... the cause of badness is what turns me into a fine laughing malchick. They don't go into the cause of goodness, so why the other shop?...what I do I do because I like to do" (part 1, ch 4)
This passage is important because it shows how Alex is able to see the diference between good and bad and more importantly that he chooses bad over good, and he does so because he can and also because he likes it. It is important to note that Alex wasn't the victim of an abusive family or extreme poverty or anything like that, he says himself he does the things he does because he wants to and he needs no excuses. This says a lot about Alex's character, making it clear to the reader that Alex is not only an insensitive, cruel person, but also that he is proud of it, he sees no fault in his actions. Also, as this remark is made early in the book, the author gives an indication sort of, of later conflicts by making it obvious that the only thing keeping Alex from being a model citizen is his affinity for evil, in other words, his free will. Rebeca Jervis 11
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Post by manuelaribadeneira on Aug 18, 2010 16:52:39 GMT -5
"Am I just to be like a clockwork orange?" p. 141 chapter 7, part 2
This quote is a very important part of the book, because it represents a reflection made by the main character an explanation of the title of the book and it is also related to the theme. This quote is used when Alex is going through one of the sessions of the Ludovicto´s technique and he reflects on how they are acting against his freewill and his decision to be a bad person. The quote also represents the theme of imposing against freewill, because it is used to say that they are making Alex´s feelings like “clockwork” instead of letting him make his own decisions, make mistakes and learn from them. Like making his decisions work “mechanically”. This passage also clarifies the title and what does the expression “clockwork orange” means. Manuela Ribadeneira 11
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Post by alegriaponce on Aug 20, 2010 11:59:00 GMT -5
"You've sinned, I suppose, but your punishment has been out of all proportion. They have turned you into something other than a human being. You have no power of choice any longer. You are committed to socially acceptable acts, a little machine capable only of good. And I see that clearly." Part 3 Chapter 4, page: 156
While F. Alexander gives hospitality to Alex at the end of the book, he explains the main point of A Clockwork Orange in this passage. How Alex is not longer a human being and how have they still his free will of choosing what he wants or likes, to be good or to be bad, to be happy or simply, to enjoy life as he deserves too. They took away everything he had normal to convert him in a machine. F. Alexander also talks about how the pleasures in life like music, art and literature have nothing but pain for him. Even though Alex has not been the best and deserves punishment, taking away his human rights it's not the best way of teaching him a lesson. Continuing their conversation in the novel, Alexander comes out with another memorable quote that symbolize A Clockwork Orange. How men have no choices to be who they are. "But the essential intention is the real sin. A man who cannot choose cases to be a man." Alegria Ponce 11th
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Post by anamalopezp on Aug 29, 2010 10:43:08 GMT -5
"What does God want? Does God want goodness or the choice of goodness? Is a man who chooses the bad perhaps in some way better than a man who has the good imposed upon him?" 106, part two, chapter 3.
After I read this quote, I couldn’t stop thinking about it. It made me ask myself whether I take positive actions because I am good or because I am supposed to be good. It made me ask myself if humans are free. Can people really be themselves by taking actions they are supposed to do? However, it also made me realize that freedom must always come with a balance between what is good and what is bad. Nothing in excess is good, as we have been told, but there must be a part of us that has to be controled to have that balance. As the chaplain was explaining to Alex, good actions are morally valueless without free will, but they can make you realize that doing bad things will not take you anywhere. Gladly, we are raised to become people who can survive in a society of respect and equality, and be fine with it. Freedom is a very important thing for humans, however Ludovico’s Technique didn’t allow prisioners to have free will and made them do things they do not want to do. Although Alex was changed into a good person, he always had a violent mentality that contradicted what the authorities had forced him to become. Ana Maria Lopez P. 11th
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Post by aalvarez on Aug 29, 2010 21:52:10 GMT -5
"Its a stinking world because it lets the young get on to the old like you done, and there's no law nor order no more." Part 1 Chapter 2 pg 17 this quote is when alex and his gang went and beat a drunk men that didnt mattered about life any more because probably he was going through tough moments. is really important what he says just before alex and his droogs beat him because throughout this short quote the author describes the way that the world has changed, maybe not too descriptive but is able to shows the reader in what has become that futuristic sosciety , unsafier, with more violence than before and with the opposition of people toward their government because they don’t do anything about this problems. Alejandra Alvarez11th
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